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705 wrote:

Dear Transmorpher,

Thank you for your reply and for your interest.
I choose to answer as truthfully as possible.  I see value in you pressing for concessions because that helps me to understand the boundaries that have been set for me and that I am required to follow.  As you are kind enough to remind me, I did agree to this and there is someone to ensure that I do what I agreed to. But I also understand that there could be loopholes in anything. Our discussion is helping to locate and plug any loopholes I may have before using them gets me in trouble.
Thank you for your assistance.

Respectfully,

A philosophical question.  For anyone.

I know people in bdsm who play this dance where they try and beat a restriction, their dom/domme responds by clamping down, until the loophole is closed off.  I "get" it if it's, say, bratting, because most of us had moments growing up where we tried to get out of a grounding or punishment.

But the 24/7 stuff, that I can't wrap my head around.  Not if there'a resistance.  If you want to get locked up in chastity with no escape, fine, your call.  If you keep trying to escape it, I can see the game there.  If your dom/domme locks you down forever, and you still talk about wanting out..  now I'm starting to wonder.  That's a literal grounding for life.  No chance of escape, means no more game.

Now, I dp understand there's a thrill in being trapped.  Miisa essentially does this, and Captiveman and others..  but she doesn't really fight it.  Embraces, more like.

And chastity isn't normal restraints either.  If you keep talking about how great it is between talking about how awful it is, why do it?  I mean, I"d feel panicky after a year of useless resisting, I NEED that possibility to defy you.  It gives me an illusion that I'm making a choice by NOT taking it.  No real choice gets old (Ending a relationship doesn't count).

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Transmorpher wrote:

A philosophical question.  For anyone.

It is a good question. I will try to offer some of my thoughts.
I do not think I have ever been a brat but I do look for loopholes, not to exploit them, but to help close them. I enjoy restrictions that are absolute or close to it because once I accept that, I can relax and feel secure in whatever the situation is. Absolute means giving up thinking about find a way out and focusing on the restriction.
24/7 is not for everyone. Some of us think if bondage is good for an hour, then two hours will be better and three hours will be better than that. But during that time, there is always the thought that if only I can wait this out, I will be free and I can do what ever I want. For me, that thought is distracting. For me, 24/7 is better. It may take some looking for loopholes to close them to make 24/7 absolute. I am basically grounded for life, but in plain sight. I go to work, I get groceries, I sometimes have dinner with friends but all of this is with my curfew in mind. I have boundaries and limits set for me and sanctions for transgressing them. Staying inside the "cage" IS the game. (for me) No chance of escape means the game is better. (for me). I like puzzles. Creating an inescapable structure is a puzzle. Once you have that, escaping is a puzzle. Wash, rinse, repeat until you can conclude that you can't solve the escape puzzle. Then you have solved the creation puzzle.

I share Miisa's thrill in being trapped. The structure I am in rewards embracing and discourages fighting it.

You are correct. Chastity is not normal restraint. It is a special restraint in that, done properly, it restrains a significant human desire. It is also significant in that, done correctly, it can be long term, invisible and can be 24/7. A secure belt is inescapable. It passes the puzzle test. The control is great for those who like or need that sort of thing. Sometimes, the limitations a belt imposes are awful but if they weren't noticeable, they wouldn't really be liimits.

These are just my thoughts and, I suppose, my philosophy. I am interested in hearing about others.

Respectfully,

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Dear Azureko,

The required intermittent started this afternoon at 3 PM EDT, 19:00 GMT and is schedule for 48 hours, three of the required 16 hours per month periods.
My belongings were collected and secured. I was given a pink uniform (inspired by Sheriff Joe Arpaio) consisting of a "skort" and scrub suit top. I was placed in leg irons and wrist cuffs connect by a twenty inch or so chain that passes thru a D ring on a belt locked around my waist and locked in the cell. A chain runs from the center of the leg iron chain to a ring on the wall.
I was drug tested (and passed!) under observation of the facility manager.
I am allowed to use the computer as freely as normal controlled by the parental control software. There are supposed to be computer time limitations besides my usual curfew while I am here.
I am hungry. There are five granola bars on a table outside of the cell. The would be unreachable due to the wrist chain but I can't even get close to the door or bars because of the chain to the wall.
There is a curtain just beyond the table that keeps me from seeing out into the room.

More soon.

Respectfully,

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Dear Azureko (and all),

It is 8:30 AM EDT, 1230 GMT.
My computer block yesterday from 5 to 7 so there was nothing to do but sit and think about being in the cell.
From the original planning notes for the custody program:

This confinement will contrast sharply with the normal curfew, as it removes [XXX] from regular activities and offers a more restrictive environment, underscoring the importance of following the rules set by his custodial supervision agreement.
The time spent in confinement will offer [XXX] a valuable opportunity for personal reflection and growth. While in the cell, [XXX] can focus on self-improvement, engaging in activities such as self-reflection, and structured tasks aimed at his development and education. The confinement provides a controlled space where distractions are minimized, allowing [XXX] to focus on addressing past behaviors and making progress toward becoming a better person. This period is meant to especially emphasize his specific lack of self autonomy.
During his confinement, [XXX] is physically restrained to ensure compliance with the conditions of his supervision and for the safety of others. These restraints are in place to prevent impulsive or harmful actions, emphasizing the importance of discipline and control. Unlike his regular curfew, where [XXX] has some freedom to engage in normal activities outside his restricted hours, intermittent confinement offers a more intensive and structured environment. This ensures that [XXX] is fully aware of the seriousness of his obligations and the necessity of adhering to the rules.

I spent the two hours focusing on these things and how I could be productive for the rest of the time.
I was fed a granola bar at 7:30 pm. There is drinking water freely available from the sink in the cell.
At about 8:30, I was given the chargers to begin charging the tracking bracelets to avoid charging violations while I am in here.
I worked on some profession projects until 10:00 pm when the computer again locked for the night.
The cell has a bunk with a futon mattress and a blanket. I fell asleep fairly quickly because I was tired from working overnight the night before. The cell lights remained on and are out of my control.
This morning, the computer was available at 7:00 am and I completed the daily items that are required by work and supervision. At 8:00 am, I was given another granola bar.
About 8:15, I fell into "sync" with confinement, accepting that I agreed to be here, understanding that this is good for my growth, but really wanting out.
18 hours complete. 30 hours to go.
More later.

Respectfully,

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Jess wrote:

It is coming up rather quickly, and after having my little time over Christmas of freedom, I’m not exactly sure how I feel about it and what I’d like to do honestly.

I would love to go back to the city and do some of the things that I’ve missed so much during the year. Would love a night out to the movies and a good meal from a restaurant, and to perhaps look pretty again and wear a nice dress, rather than constantly being in my uniform scrubs. But at this time I’ve got no where to actually go back to, and the idea of going back to a normal job again is something I really dread.

Jess

Hi Jess, so what have you decided to do? It's almost 2 months since your year ended and I think a lot of us are curious as to your current situation.

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726

Dear Azureko (and all),

It is 8:15 am EDT, 12:15 GMT, day 3 of intermittent confinement.
I mostly worked yesterday, as much as I could. The were 4 one or two computer time-outs during the day. I was required to write a reflection on the meaning and value of confinement as an aid to self improvement. I had to do another one accounting for my program violations over the last 30 days. There were ten: 1 curfew violation, 3 related to tracking bracelet charging, 4
technicalities from one of the parental control apps not being active for 5 days because I did not use those devices, and 2 because I accidently tried to login to a device outside of allowed hours.
I got a granola bar for breakfast and lunch. I was given one in the evening but cautioned that it was one of two left until release. I saved it for this morning.
I had a video interview with my Supervisor who was encouraging about my writing and compliance with the supervision program. They said there will be some proposed adjustments at our next in-person meeting.
I slept well last night.
41 hours complete, 7 hours to go.
More later.

Respectfully,

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705 wrote:

It is a good question. I will try to offer some of my thoughts.
I do not think I have ever been a brat but I do look for loopholes, not to exploit them, but to help close them. I enjoy restrictions that are absolute or close to it because once I accept that, I can relax and feel secure in whatever the situation is. Absolute means giving up thinking about find a way out and focusing on the restriction.
24/7 is not for everyone. Some of us think if bondage is good for an hour, then two hours will be better and three hours will be better than that. But during that time, there is always the thought that if only I can wait this out, I will be free and I can do what ever I want. For me, that thought is distracting. For me, 24/7 is better. It may take some looking for loopholes to close them to make 24/7 absolute. I am basically grounded for life, but in plain sight. I go to work, I get groceries, I sometimes have dinner with friends but all of this is with my curfew in mind. I have boundaries and limits set for me and sanctions for transgressing them. Staying inside the "cage" IS the game. (for me) No chance of escape means the game is better. (for me). I like puzzles. Creating an inescapable structure is a puzzle. Once you have that, escaping is a puzzle. Wash, rinse, repeat until you can conclude that you can't solve the escape puzzle. Then you have solved the creation puzzle.

I share Miisa's thrill in being trapped. The structure I am in rewards embracing and discourages fighting it.

You are correct. Chastity is not normal restraint. It is a special restraint in that, done properly, it restrains a significant human desire. It is also significant in that, done correctly, it can be long term, invisible and can be 24/7. A secure belt is inescapable. It passes the puzzle test. The control is great for those who like or need that sort of thing. Sometimes, the limitations a belt imposes are awful but if they weren't noticeable, they wouldn't really be liimits.

These are just my thoughts and, I suppose, my philosophy. I am interested in hearing about others.

Respectfully,

First of all, Happy Easter. :)

Secondly, I'm curious on how this curfew works with the unexpected.  Is your monitor always available, no matter what?  If not, how are emergency exceptions handled that are time sensitive?

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Dear Transmorpher,

Happy Easter.

Thank you for your interest and curiosity.
The curfew requires that I remain at home during curfew hours unless I have been granted an exception. There is a list of acceptable reasons for an exception and rules about how far in advance I need to request one. The advance notice allows time for the monitor to consider the request and decide, accounting for the fact that they may not always be available.
If there were a time sensitive, emergency situation, I can always just leave to do whatever is necessary. This will be a curfew violation. What actions occur as a result will depend on my ability to explain what happened and why I did what I did.
The system is strict and restrictive but allows me to make provisions for dealing with life but I am held strictly accountable for what I do.

Respectfully,

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705 wrote:

Dear Transmorpher,

Happy Easter.

Thank you for your interest and curiosity.
The curfew requires that I remain at home during curfew hours unless I have been granted an exception. There is a list of acceptable reasons for an exception and rules about how far in advance I need to request one. The advance notice allows time for the monitor to consider the request and decide, accounting for the fact that they may not always be available.
If there were a time sensitive, emergency situation, I can always just leave to do whatever is necessary. This will be a curfew violation. What actions occur as a result will depend on my ability to explain what happened and why I did what I did.
The system is strict and restrictive but allows me to make provisions for dealing with life but I am held strictly accountable for what I do.

Respectfully,

Is this something you've thought about? 

I'm a worry wart myself, an inevitable outcome of living long enough.  You learn people simply aren't reasonable about a lot of things.

The ironic thing here is we and ours spend time specifically trying to iron out the "what if's" or deal with the unexpected.  Fairness becomes a priority.

In a way it gives us far more freedom then the average person enjoys in any other kind of relationship.

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Dear Transmorpher,

It is something that I have thought about and it has been refined over the past twenty years to get to where it is now.

I don't think of myself as a worry wart but I do think of myself as risk aware, not in the sense of what people call RACK but in the sense that life involves all sorts of risks, some more likely than others and some more severe than others. I actually teach several classes about risk analysis and mitigation, primary for cyber-security and aviation. I have a bunch of training in failure and accident investigation and in human factors as it pertains to risk and accidents.
After you talk about this enough and tell people about it enough and work all sorts of exercises, you come to view most everything though at least a little bit of a risk analysis lens.

I am not sure if fairness is necessarily the priority, but I think awareness is, for everyone involved. Everyone should be trying to consider the "what ifs" and how likely they are to occur and also what should be done when something happens that you haven't considered. This is one of the reasons that I enjoy our conversations and your questions. You help look for things that may have not been considered or not considered in enough detail. Thank you.

Thinking of all the details and what to do about them gives us amazing freedom. I am often told how much freedom I have because of the unequivocal structure and boundaries that have been set for me. I have come to understand just how true that is.

Respectfully,

Last edited by 705 (2025-04-21 04:11:57)

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Dear Azureko (and all),

It is about 9 pm EDT, 01:00 GMT. I have completed 48 hours of my required intermittent confinement for this year. I have 132 more to complete before the end of the year.

Working was a little more difficult today. The computer lockout schedule changed to a 30 minute time-out every 2 hours. Despite this, I completed most of what I wanted to do for the weekend.
At the end of the time, I was released and returned home. I received no negative comments for the people who facilitated my confinement. It was good to hear that there will probably no significant changes for the next visit.

If you have any questions, I would be happy to help.

Respectfully,

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705 wrote:

Dear Azureko (and all),

It is about 9 pm EDT, 01:00 GMT. I have completed 48 hours of my required intermittent confinement for this year. I have 132 more to complete before the end of the year.

Working was a little more difficult today. The computer lockout schedule changed to a 30 minute time-out every 2 hours. Despite this, I completed most of what I wanted to do for the weekend.
At the end of the time, I was released and returned home. I received no negative comments for the people who facilitated my confinement. It was good to hear that there will probably no significant changes for the next visit.

If you have any questions, I would be happy to help.

Respectfully,

Since this is a confinement, your computer time is strictly work related?  If so, 30 minute brreaks every two hours sounds fair.

I've got to tell you, if I had a curfew of any sort, it's the computer problems that would stress me the most.  Network problems, hsrdware or software issues, tech support, it can eat up time, and I mean a LOT of it.

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Transmorpher wrote:

Since this is a confinement, your computer time is strictly work related?  If so, 30 minute brreaks every two hours sounds fair.

I've got to tell you, if I had a curfew of any sort, it's the computer problems that would stress me the most.  Network problems, hsrdware or software issues, tech support, it can eat up time, and I mean a LOT of it.

Thank you for the feedback on the fairness. It was work related and internet use was (and it) monitored. But you are right, there is stress when things beyond my control eat up time that is, for me, precious. It doesn't happen often but trying to finish something in the evening before time runs out and having to try to deal with tech support over some type of chat that I am going to also lose access to also is hard. In the case of the weekend, I was working on some programming and testing and would just have gotten on a roll only to have the half hour time out. Frustrating, yes. But realistically, being forced to just think about what I was trying to do for that half hour probably helped the process.

Respectfully,

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705 wrote:

Thank you for the feedback on the fairness. It was work related and internet use was (and it) monitored. But you are right, there is stress when things beyond my control eat up time that is, for me, precious. It doesn't happen often but trying to finish something in the evening before time runs out and having to try to deal with tech support over some type of chat that I am going to also lose access to also is hard. In the case of the weekend, I was working on some programming and testing and would just have gotten on a roll only to have the half hour time out. Frustrating, yes. But realistically, being forced to just think about what I was trying to do for that half hour probably helped the process.

Respectfully,

If it helps, try and think of it as a common problem for everyone.  For you, it's a curfew, for me it could be a prior obligation I made to assist.friends or family, or some other task I set for myself.  It's all about time management, we all have our monitors, from without and within, all of us suffer consequences for how we manage that time or fail.to.  And most of us never do as much as we'd like.

Btw, I hope my happy easter wasn't as bone headed as I'm imagining.  You were under curfew, right? 

And it's an assumption on my part that you even celebrate easter.  Not everyone does.   :)

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Dear Transmorpher,

You make a very good point. This is a problem for many, if not everyone. Learning better time management is one of the explict goals of my supervision program. Learning to deal calmly with deadlines whether they are imposed by external people or events or imposed by the ruthless automation used to help manage me. Everyone has consequences. I am probably lucky in that mine are pretty well defined and applied in a mostly objective way.

Your Easter greeting was quite appropriate and much appreciated. It was appropriate whether I was under curfew or not (I was locked up for a required period of intermittent confinement.) I do celebrate although this year, my celebration was limited to a solo Easter dinner after I got home. No chocolate rabbits or Jelly Beans, but that was my choice not one imposed on me.

Thank you for all of our discussions and for your input. They are very valuable.

Respectfully,

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Thinking about it, a curfew also gives you permission to disengage.

Sometimes.you keep driving yourself to burnout, and feel guilty over the productivity hit.  Those curfews set boundaries against that.

Which is kind of awesome tbh.

+1

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Dear Transmorpher,

Transmorpher wrote:

Thinking about it, a curfew also gives you permission to disengage.

Sometimes.you keep driving yourself to burnout, and feel guilty over the productivity hit.  Those curfews set boundaries against that.

Which is kind of awesome tbh.

You make a very good point. I would say that curfew even forces disengagement. Successfully dealing with the restrictions requires disengageing.
From some of the supervision program design notes:

Curfews enforce predictable patterns of behavior. They remove the freedom to drift, delay, or act impulsively during high-risk hours. Their purpose is to impose discipline through fixed constraints. ...
Curfews function as a daily reminder of reduced autonomy. ...
The inability to move freely is intentional—it reminds the Supervisee that their freedom is conditional

Curfews help prevent many bad choices. It is sometimes difficult to explain or for others to understand but with restrictions come freedom. The greater the restriction and structure, the greater the freedom.

Today's curfew starts in 4 minutes. Overnight timeout starts in three hours and 34 minutes. I am learning to be grateful for the boundaries set and enforced for me.

Thank you fpr considering my situation and sharing your thoughts and insight. They are very helpful and very appreciated.

Respectfully,

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705 wrote:

Dear Transmorpher,

You make a very good point. I would say that curfew even forces disengagement. Successfully dealing with the restrictions requires disengageing.
From some of the supervision program design notes:

Curfews help prevent many bad choices. It is sometimes difficult to explain or for others to understand but with restrictions come freedom. The greater the restriction and structure, the greater the freedom.

Today's curfew starts in 4 minutes. Overnight timeout starts in three hours and 34 minutes. I am learning to be grateful for the boundaries set and enforced for me.

Thank you fpr considering my situation and sharing your thoughts and insight. They are very helpful and very appreciated.

Respectfully,

Is.your curfew consistent?  It's 7 p.m. here as of your curfew, east coast US.  I'm assuming you're not in the US, as 7 is rather early for a curfew to.be functional.

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Dear Transmorpher,

Transmorpher wrote:

Is.your curfew consistent?  It's 7 p.m. here as of your curfew, east coast US.  I'm assuming you're not in the US, as 7 is rather early for a curfew to.be functional.

I am on the east cosst of the US so it is EDT.

The supervision program says:

The Supervisee is restricted to their primary residence except during approved hours:
Monday through Thursday: 7:00 AM to 8:00 PM
Friday: 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM
Travel to and from the running track, designated exercise areas, and [the] Fitness Center is allowed without curfew exception.
Exceptions up to 4 hours must be requested at least 1 hour before curfew begins; exceptions over 4 hours require 24-hour advance notice.
Each curfew exception must be requested separately and will be reviewed individually.

Compliance is tracked by the GPS bracelets.
The limits have proven functional. 7 is rather early but the program rationale says:

Curfews are restrictive on purpose. Weekend curfews, in particular, emphasize the cost of previous choices. Missing out on normal social freedoms is not incidental—it is part of the consequence structure meant to reshape behavior.

Exceptions are available. if I think I need them. There is a list of acceptable requests and a weekly and monthy limit on how many. I would say they are usually granted but I am careful what I ask for.  Last weekend, I had a request refused because it was deemed not necessary and I had had two others earlier in the week. Having to ask for an exception adds mindfulness to my daily planning and requires that I consider how important an activity is. The process also requires that I maintain generally good behavior and compliance with other conditions as that is considered when granting exceptions.

Thank you for your question and interest. Our conversations add to my day.

Respectfully,

Last edited by 705 (2025-04-24 15:13:29)

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705 wrote:

Dear Transmorpher,

I am on the east cosst of the US so it is EDT.

The supervision program says:

Compliance is tracked by the GPS bracelets.
The limits have proven functional. 7 is rather early but the program rationale says:

Exceptions are available. if I think I need them. There is a list of acceptable requests and a weekly and monthy limit on how many. I would say they are usually granted but I am careful what I ask for.  Last weekend, I had a request refused because it was deemed not necessary and I had had two others earlier in the week. Having to ask for an exception adds mindfulness to my daily planning and requires that I consider how important an activity is. The process also requires that I maintain generally good behavior and compliance with other conditions as that is considered when granting exceptions.

Thank you for your question and interest. Our conversations add to my day.

Respectfully,

Last edited by 705 (Today 08:13:29)

I get it. 

My friend, I've seen some messed.up shite.  I've seen an elderly woman get a heart attack at her blue collar.job, and they penalized her as if she was absent of.her own volition.  I'm also.a long time fan of professional wrestling, the stories of Vince McMahon coercing workers against seeing their sons born is infamous.

I have.a feeling your monitors are nowhere near that hard hearted. 

I won't ask you what the denial was for as that's your personal business.

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Dear Transmorpher,

Transmorpher wrote:

I get it. 

...

I have.a feeling your monitors are nowhere near that hard hearted. 

I won't ask you what the denial was for as that's your personal business.

They are not hard hearted. I would say they are strict, firm, and fair. Thye have built a figurative box, a small one, and keep me in it. The "box" has no padding and no carpet, but, neither, does it have any splinters.

It is interesting. The denied exception was so important to me that I forgot what it was about. I had to go back and look it up.  I asked to go to a big, hobiest trade show and was told no. In looking back, I would have liked to have gone and wish I has, but obviously didn't miss it all that much. I certainly benfitted more form the enforced structure than I would have from attending.

Thank you for your understanding and your comments. I appreciate it.

Respectfully,

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