Dear Doom Turtle, thank you for your explanations, I understand a little better.
Our conversation continued last night.
To sum up.
It was especially her who questioned me,
She wanted to know my youth, and in short she was happy.
then she wanted to know why.
Why I wanted to become submissive. Difficult question I told him that it was an irrepressible urge that increased day by day and that our little games were beginning to be a little bland.
But I have no idea how this desire came to me, mystery?
She asked me why her, there easy because I love her and I have total confidence in her.
She asked me how I thought I could bear corporal punishment when I never received the slightest spanking apart from hers, which were more erotic caresses.
I replied to him. When we want we can, I know more or less what I am committing to and I will ensure even if I understand that it will be difficult but I am sure that I will take pleasure in it
Then there was a question that nearly broke everything.
Did you think of me, what do I gain?
  And I spun the biggest nonsense I could say.
Do you want me to pay you???
She gave me a real slap, it was the first time. I apologized profusely, I asked for forgiveness...
She too was sorry for her bad reflex.
We explained each other, and we reconciled on the pillow, and the answer remained in suspense.
As for her coming here, I showed her, she's not against it but she doesn't want me to be able to read it. It might be complicated, do you have a solution?
Thanks again.
Ingrid

Dear friends,

@ Sophie I would hope that your guardians would understand that one of the reasons that I am here is to be open to other people suggestions and opinions on how I can be better and how my program can help with that. I hope that my prior agreement (really my request), prior warning, and any ideas and help would be good for me would make it acceptable to your guardian.  I am sorry that they punished you  for helping me and I hope that they will allow you to help me in the future,. You have special knowledge that makes your advice valuable.

I would hope that  your babysitters would allow you to tell me of the plans for the weekend. Because I have decided that it is the right thing to share this group with my custodian, I would tell them you idea and they would decide if it would happen.They have their own ideas about what my program should be but I am sure they would carefully consider ideas that come form you and the rest of the people here.

Some people use a bidet to clean after the toilet or carry a spray bottle of water to clean themselves and their belt.

@Ingrid I think that DoomTurtle is right about the importance of good communication. I am glad that you are continuing to talk to Anje about how you feel and what sort of things you want. I very respectfully disagree with DoomTurtle that a mistress cannot allow themselves a moment of weakness. People are only human and no one can be expected to perfect and strict and completely in charge all of the time. (We do expect Sophie to be strict all of the time. That is why we love her.    ) If you expect your mistress to be perfect and never have weakness, you will disappointed. The most important thing is to always communicate about how each of you feels.
Asking abouyt paying Anje was not a good idea because people think that means paying money. But it is important to think about what Anje will get from being in charge of you. Some people like to be in charge. They like that they can tell you to do something and you will just do with the ability to say no whether is is something like clean the floor or make dinner or if it something like we are going top the movies and I will pick which one. Some people like the idea of being in charge so they can make you better whether it is making you eat the right things or exercise more or not do things they don't think you should.
You know what you need from this connection or, at least, you are trying to figure that out. The two of you also need to find out what Anje wants and can get from this.
I am sure the two of you will be able to work this out. Please keep talking (and asking questions here). That is more important that hurrying to start doing things before you are more sure about what you want to do.

Respectful hugs to all,
705

Dear 705,
Thank you for calling me out on this point! I may have written it too carelessly. Of course I agree that discussing each partner's feelings and needs is the most important part of any successful relationship. And it is good to explain your choices and admit your mistakes, it improves mutual trust and respect. I think, though, that when you take your partner as 24/7 submissive, promising to make choices for her and shield her from the world... you really shouldn't bring her out of this safe subspace then. She accepts your care, guidance and your punishments, so it would be awkward to give her additional worries or cry on her chest. At least, this is the standard I'd like to hold myself to; I don't claim that it's universal.

Ladies and gentlemen, read 705, he really knows what he's talking about!

Yours,
DoomTurtle

Dear DoomTurtle,

Thank you for the kind vote of confidence. I only try to share what I know so other people don't have to make the mistakes I have already made. I tell people, "Life is too short to make all the mistakes yourself. Learn from other people."

The point I wanted to make most was that life is complicated and no one is perfect or right all of the time. If you are the person in charge and you let the people you are in charge of think you are perfect, you will eventually encounter a situation that will disappoint you both and have both of you disappointed in each other. I think my supervisor is smart, knowledgeable, and strict but I do not expect that they will be exactly right all of the time. Things will happen that they cannot control that will affect the supervision. That is just something I have to expect. We expect that they will make decisions for me or help me make them for myself but that may not be able to happen. I may ask to do something that needs permission and may not get an immediate answer because they were busy with something else. It is not good for me to expect they will be there all the time for things like this. They are there almost all the time but that is different. If they are unable to make a decision for me because they are unavailable, I will have to do the best I can to do what they would think would be the right choice. Later, if they feel it was not the right choice, I may have consequences. The fact that they were not available to make the choice for me is not a defense against the consequences. They may even have not answered as a test although I don;t think that has ever happened but, I guess, it could. As another example, if I received an internet or device timeout, they may not be able to end when they planned to for whatever reason, their phone failed, they had some emergency come. I would be alone, isolated, and cut off for potentially hours and would just have to deal with those consequences. People expected me to call them or meet them, I will just have to apologize to them later. This is just something I have to deal with because I am part of this sort of custody program. It is not easy but it would be a lot harder if I counted on the supervisor to be perfect all of the time.

I agree this may be different for a Dom/sub relationship that is not (or not yet) 24/7. That needs different understanding and communication. It is also different if you are both together and experiencing the same situation. That can change expectations.

Dear MsHanna,

It is nice to here from you but even nicer to know that you are with and under the control of your partner who has a tight leash on your phone. The image of the two of you sitting on the porch enjoying the sunset while you are on your chain is a quite delightful one.

Respectful hugs,
705

Dear Doom Turtle, 705, MsHanna,
we talk a lot with anja, but she hides her game, she stubbornly refuses to tell me what she intends to do. The wait is unbearable.
Yesterday she asked me to list my limits, which made me a little more confident. Then she added that I should give it to her in 8 days. I still have at least 8 days to wait "cry"
I asked her if we could play, she told me of course, nothing has changed. It changed my mind
Forgive me for telling you my silly stories, but it does me good to talk about it.
Thanks.
Ingrid.

Morning,

It has been an enjoyable week for me, as usual, though I do like how I have been allowed access to my phone on a more regular basis this past few days, then compared to usual, where I am only allowed access to my phone if someone calls me.

Though I have noticed that with that, my security has somewhat increased this week, my legs are secured in leg irons, as well as a chain going from irons to a pillar where its locked, and my wrists are locked in leather cuffs with a 10-20 centimeter chain connecting them together, but overall it has been fun! Especially not being kept in a belt this week.

I look forward to hopefully being allowed to have access here later this weekend too!

Hugs,

Hanna

@Ingrid
Oh no, I am not permanently chained, only when I am with my partner, we don't live together full time, yet anyways, and both of us have real life commitments, we are both students in university, but when we have some time to hang out together out of town, we spend time at his cottage in the countryside, and there I am in captivity and chained.

We are just a regular couple when we are in town akd hanging out with our families and friends, we just have a little bit of a twist in our relationship, haha!

Hugs,

Hanna

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Dear friends,

@ Sophie Thank you for your idea. You did understand correctly. I think it is good that you share things like this with me. DoomTurtle is correct that I am expected to be productive and I usually have enough things to do to keep be busy almost all of the time. But you idea is a good one and has been used in the past when I said that I was busy and worried about doing all that I had to do. I was sent to the website writeforme.org and had assignments to take up time (about an hour) every day for a week. It made me a lot more content with the amount of work I have to do normally.  Because you have suggested this again, I will let the supervisors know so they can decide if it should be used more often. Please tell your guardians for me (if you think it is okay) that I appreciate your suggestions because you have good experience and a good viewpoint and have a strict mindset. This should count in your favor to not be such a bad girl.

@ MsHanna I agree with the Turtle of Doom. Your descriptions sound very romantic. I know how busy students are so I am glad that you are able to get this kind of time away to enjoy each other and the things that you are doing. The memories of a week at the cabin on the chain should be good to help you with your studies. The wrist and ankle cuffs should make nice additional memories. Even though you may look like just a regular couple when you are in town to other people, you are very special people to each other because you share this special time. Maybe your partner would be able to make you a gift of something like this: https://www.axsmar.eu/Stainless-Steel/T … ::129.html that you could wear all the time to have a physical reminder of the memories. It looks like just nice jewelry so it won't  cause questions with friends or family or reveal your twist. The Axsmar one is just an example. There are lot of manufacturers of this like this.
It is nice that you were allowed more phone access so you could follow along with us.

@ Ingrid It sounds like you are make positive progress with adjusting your relationship with Anje. It is good that she has asked about your limits. I like DoomTurtle's idea of approaching her if you are finished with the list early.

@ DoomTurtle You are exactly correct about the responsibility of a master to keep their partner able to make basic life decisions for themselves. Although I suspect that it might not be possible to keep a partner from becoming addicted to domination by a good master (which you seem to be). I think that if my supervisor were unable to continue for some reason that the others they rely  on for suggestions and advice would be able to maintain my control while a new primary could be determined.

Respectful hugs for all and I echo DoomTurtle's wishes for a great weekend. (for those of you not on a curfew for most of it, or on a chain only able to look at grass and not touch it, or stuck inside washing and cleaning)
705

Maybe if you were to let your submissive wear a shock collar with a gps tracker that might be also a solution to keep the subject in check such as this one : https://fancysteel.com/collections/adva … ing-collar

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705

We have thought about getting something like that, but so far we haven't got anything yet, but maybe somewhere down the line we might!

Otherwise, it has been a pleasant day today, did some gardening earlier in the morning, and went out for a walk in the woods, I of course was kept in tight leash, and my wrist cuffs, but not leg ironed, for my safety, as it is quite steep uphills and downhills, but nevertheless, it was fun and romantic to go out for a walk together!

And later tonight we will be sitting together by a bonfire watching the night sky and relaxing, me of course without my phone, and fully secured in my leg irons, and listen to music!

Life can be so great!

Hugs,

Hanna

Dear Hanna,

Thanks for reminding us that life can be great! I expect that you are sitting by that bonfire as I'm writing to you now. If you have already discussed a semi-permanent symbolic bracelet and you enjoy the idea, I hope your partner will give you such a gift soon. And indeed, after finishing the university and moving in together you will be able to make more ambitious decisions. Whether you will prefer to continue with intermittent submission or aim for something more constant, I trust you will manage to eke out the lifestyle of your dreams. You certainly deserve to be happy!

Dear 705,

I appreciate your kind words. Regarding the above discussion, I think I wouldn't dare to use a shock collar on anyone without being physically there. The siren seems interesting though, has your supervisor ever used it? As for writing lines, I believe it is more memorable (although more difficult to verify, of course) when done manually rather than with software. Is your normal amount of work strictly related to your job and improving your IT qualifications, or do you also receive other kinds of self-development tasks?

Greetings,
DoomTurtle

Dear all
my babysitters have returned from vacation and we will have a meeting during the day. it doesn't feel good to me..
#sHanna, I imagine this charming romantic walk, being by the fireside in the arms of your partner, what a romanticism, but aren't you afraid of being surprised. I hope your hands were tied behind your back.
Kisses
Sophie

How can I write such nonsense, I'm crazy.
Of course I will be very proud to wear Anja's necklace, how could it be otherwise.
If I start wanting to put a limit to this kind of trifle, I might as well stop right away.
All my excuses.
Ingrid

Dear Ms Hanna,
  I had forgotten that you live in a huge country with large uninhabited areas.
At home, that doesn't exist apart from a few places in the mountains and again, you meet people all the time, it's really difficult to find a quiet place.
Ingrid