Hello Tempestwood,

This time, I need to disagree with you politely, as I don't think your speculation is worth betting on. Knowing a bit about Miisa's style of writing, I'm pretty sure that her "This is a terrible situation" refers simply to the guards' early vacation time, her related special arrangements and inability to inform us about these things earlier. You might remember that last year summer, during the guards' leave, she also had limited internet access.

I think the words "the Committee informed me (us)" indicate quite clearly that Erin is still under the rules, otherwise there would be no reason for using the word "us". Moreover, as far as I remember, she is actually a lawyer from a company that the Committee hires to cover their legal safety. It's very improbable that they would somehow turn against their paying client.

Finally, we cannot access the full text of the contract, but from what I know, the only thing that seems a bit doubtful is the three-months notice. The laws of many countries would require immediate leave on request to make it legal, but I can believe that Finland is different in that regard, and the Committee certainly knows better. Anyway - let me repeat - we have no reason to assume that legitimacy of the contract is under question now.

Greetings from the Turtle of Doom!

Good morning,
So far I don't think you need to worry.
For missa it's bad news because if it's like last summer, it's members of the committee who replace the guards. These are not used to Miisa's routines or do them differently and these changes are very upsetting and stressful to her.
Good day.
Sophie

You’re right most countries have laws about deprivation of liberty which can be prosecuted without a complaint by the victim. The main issues are consent and coercion.

The type of contact here is essentially a sexual role play entered into by consenting adults with an exit clause - all of which is legal (provided there is no coercion).

Ultimately, the exit clause is probably not enforceable, but it could be interpreted as a reconciliation process to prevent the rest of contract from falling over.

Its purpose is to provide a cooling off period because once the illusion of imprisonment is broken there would be no way to go back.

I’m not a lawyer, but I do have a lot of experience with contract law. You can’t enter into a contract where the concerns of the contract are illegal, and you must be willing and able to uphold the terms of the contract.

Yes, you are very much right. What I'm trying to say is that in many modern jurisdictions (like for example Germany) you can consent to deprivation of personal liberty in the context of roleplay, but you should be able to withdraw this consent instantly, at any moment. So I fully agree with you that

Thanks for the fruitful discussion!

EDIT: Azureko, so I'm not the only one digging in the old entries of Diary? Well, I remember that I also have wondered about this particular point!

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You’re not alone. I’ve read the whole diary and the Life Story of Captivegirl.

I really recommend reading that as well if you haven’t already.

Would be intresting to know how the commitee has set up this legal entity to be able to enforce agreement concerning  the extension on the power of attorney and to  whom are experienced with these unsual contracts such as dealing with voluntary imprisonment.

I wonder what sort of rammifications the commitee has for Erin if doesn't show up on time to be imprisoned as part of her deal to be imprisoned 2 days each week at the facility.

Power of attorney is reasonably easy to set up. Anyone can do it for any reason. The “rules” will just be a standard contract, it’s only the concerns of the contract that is unusual.

The more I think about it the more likely it is that the committee is a trust to administer the capital assets, pay bills, employ the guards, and to endure beyond the committee’s individual membership and for Miisa’s lifetime.

I too am curious to learn more about Erin’s rules and how the committee extends and enforces them.

I am subject to electronic monitoring using gps ankle bracelets. The gps tracking is used to enforce daily curfew and restrict location where I am not permitted to go. Apps installed on my phone and other devices enforce apps I am allowed to use and for how long each day and control websites I am allowed to visit. If I violate the electronic monitoring restrictions, my devices are completely restricted until I comply. I am looking for to learning if Erin is handled in a similar way.

A post by the committee (copy)

The committee has never before written to the Forum maintained by prisoner Miisa.
We have full confidence that the prisoner will be able to maintain the operation of the Forum. Everything has worked well and the prisoner has proven herself worthy of trust.

We have set some restrictions on what a prisoner can publish, meaning mainly personal and location information, as well as exact times for things that happen in the writings.
These restrictions have been put in place for the protection of both the prisoner and the Committee.

As a safety measure, we also do not give prisoners advance information about future changes that will affect their lives.
That's why sometimes there are situations when the Forum followers do not immediately get information about what is happening in the daily life of the prisoners.

Summer is always a very challenging time to organize sufficiently strict and safe supervision for prisoners who require maximum supervision.
Due to holidays and other overlapping issues, we have to simplify and limit the life of the prisoners during the summer. One way is to reduce their activities, like in this case using the net.
It's also good that the prisoner (Miisa) can rest and spend a "light" summer without having to work and maintaining the Forum.

However, we arrange for the prisoner to have the opportunity once a week to read Forum discussions, e-mails and other communications, but she can only respond to them after the summer season, in August.
In the committee's opinion, it is good that the prisoner is isolated from the internet and stressful world events, even for a while.

The Committee is satisfied with the functioning of the Forum and the behavior of its followers, apart from some offensive emails sent by members to prisoners.

Prisoner Miisa has sent us message requests in which some people have wished to contact the Committee.
We have responded to some, at our discretion, but the majority of requests do not cause any action.

One thing we (the Committee) have paid attention to is the discussion in the "CaptiveGirl diary" section.
The discussion is good and to the point, we encourage you to continue it, but please note that the topic is specifically CaptiveGirl Miisa's diary.
We ask that other people's experiences and thoughts be discussed in their own topic.

Apologies to Miisa and the Committee for taking this thread slightly off topic. The off topic posts can be moved to their own thread by a forum admin if that helps.

Hello everyone, I'm glad my analysis was correct.🙂
Kisses for Miisa  when she can read me.

Sophie

Dear Committee, kind thanks for your valuable input! While noticing the offtopic, I decided it wouldn't be appropriate to suggest on my own that it should be stopped. It is good to know that you watch over the Forum.

If it can be arranged for Miisa to get a long leave from her job every summer, obviously I see that restricting her internet usage simplifies procedures in this demanding period and maybe even enhances safety a bit. On the other hand, she values regular routine, so perhaps it would be better to keep as many things as possible unchanged? Moreover, I believe (although I might be mistaken) that maintaining the Forum is a form of rest for her rather than a duty, so it wouldn't interfere with a "light" summer. You have probably considered all these points (as well as the events of the previous summer) and I'm sure everyone here will appreciate your decisions.

As for the Forum itself, cutting away the main reason of its existence for 6-8 weeks has to cause lessened activity and inhibit its development. In the whole context it isn't even a secondary concern, though. At least, I am thankful for everything you are doing for the Forum community here (and for Miisa, of course).

I realise that most probably you will not answer this message, but it is no problem at all. It is comforting to see that you read these entries and show some care for the users. Wishing you great success in this and other projects!

705, your story is quite interesting, thanks for sharing it! When you move it to another thread, I will certainly think about some questions to ask.

Miisa, when you can read it: I hope the summer routine isn't too hard on you! Carry on, and I'll read your entries with pleasure once you get allowed to return.

Respectfully,
DoomTurtle

Last year, as you have probably seen, Miisa's summer regulations only ended in middle/late August. Most probably, we simply need to wait a bit more. I have given my general opinion on the summer break above, but I believe we have too little knowledge of the situation to make any specific requests to the Committee about this year's break. Let them do their job. If nothing happened until the beginning of September, I think it would be a good moment to ask questions.

Dear miisa,
I am very happy to read you a new one. You say that the discipline has become stricter, I hope you will tell us more.
Is your denim dress the starting point for a real prisoner's outfit?
I'm sorry the committee does not allow erin to post, it would have been very interesting to know his opinion on his detention. I hope one day they will allow it
   Kisses
sophie