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Miisa Karlsson wrote:

Basically I don't need all the heavy restraints and locks (and policies) but it's clear to me that they are with me at all times... they keep me "on track" all the time.

Having a constant, physical, tangible reminder of how absolute a situation is goes a long way toward helping to create the desired mental effect.  It is possible to voluntarily stay "on track" but the physical reminders and restraints allow not having to make that mental effort and just appreciate the structure that is imposed on you.

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Miisa Karlsson wrote:

I can understand the ideas you brought up.
"I am reminded of another submissive blogger whose Dominant decided she was no longer allowed to speak when outside their home. This rule became ingrained into their lifestyle. However, although she could be fully trusted to follow this rule 100% of the time, she quickly found that wasn't enough for her emotionally. She wanted to be gagged in public - to have the ability to speak taken from her. They ended up doing that, as it was more satisfactory for them both."

The same works for me here.
Basically I don't need all the heavy restraints and locks (and policies) but it's clear to me that they are with me at all times... they keep me "on track" all the time.

"You have written in the past about the need for a mental orgasm as well as a physical one, to be fully satisfied. I would expect that, if your O-Sessions were always the same there would be no mental orgasm, and a physical orgasm may also become much harder to produce. This would reduce the effectiveness of the O-Session and be counter-productive. Much better, in my view, to constantly vary what is involved, so you are always unsettled and stretched during the session, never know what to expect and therefore feel a total loss of control. This is a better way for everyone involved, IMHO."

This is the right idea.
O-sessions are really the only thing that can change in my institutionalized rhythm. It's a good thing and I look forward to it every time.

"Diggimg this up because of a burning question.

How do the logistics work on this?  Is the submissive always with someone?  Are there emergency exemptions?  (Escort has a heart attack say).

Absolutes have always fascinated.me, up to and including extreme.cases.  I like to learn where I can if people figure out ways to avoid ever.needing.to.break.a.rule, and.how they integrate into a day to day."

Here I have no backup system or anything I could use in case of emergency.
I am very rarely under the care of just one person so that is my safety.
If something were to happen (I can't imagine what it would be), the other person would be my safety.

That makes sense, with a group you're under the same risks everyone else who lives nornal lives is in group settings.  You're likely safer then normal, as your caretakers must have plans in place for emergencies, training, resources and support custom tailored to your lifestyle.

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705 wrote:

Having a constant, physical, tangible reminder of how absolute a situation is goes a long way toward helping to create the desired mental effect.  It is possible to voluntarily stay "on track" but the physical reminders and restraints allow not having to make that mental effort and just appreciate the structure that is imposed on you.

That's right, it reinforces the absoluteness of my life, calms me down, and reassures me that everything is permanent.

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Transmorpher wrote:

That makes sense, with a group you're under the same risks everyone else who lives nornal lives is in group settings.  You're likely safer then normal, as your caretakers must have plans in place for emergencies, training, resources and support custom tailored to your lifestyle.

I am sure that the Committee will also take care of all these matters.

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How do you think "do not speak away from home" rules work for couples who.have them
Shopping or errands, family or friends, business...?

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Miisa Karlsson wrote:

That's right, it reinforces the absoluteness of my life, calms me down, and reassures me that everything is permanent.

I am not yet able to have the level of strictness that you do but find it desirable for the sames reasons you do. We are working to provide something as strict and structured as possible while still allowing me to interact with the world as much as I need to. I am envious of your situation and what you and the Committee have built. Thank you for all of the information you have shared over the years.

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To the last poster:  Not my business, so forgive me if this is overstepping....

I wonder if the Committee is open to more captives?  We already have the lawyer, but he's an "insider", not a random person.  But it can't hurt to ask..

Last edited by Transmorpher (2025-04-05 22:41:37)

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Transmorpher wrote:

How do you think "do not speak away from home" rules work for couples who.have them
Shopping or errands, family or friends, business...?

It could work very well. It all depends on their commitment.

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705 wrote:

I am not yet able to have the level of strictness that you do but find it desirable for the sames reasons you do. We are working to provide something as strict and structured as possible while still allowing me to interact with the world as much as I need to. I am envious of your situation and what you and the Committee have built. Thank you for all of the information you have shared over the years.

My situation has improved over the years.
It's usually very smooth and serene but sometimes a "storm in a teacup" can happen... usually caused by me but the Committee has the tools to calm me down :)

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Transmorpher wrote:

To the last poster:  Not my business, so forgive me if this is overstepping....

I wonder if the Committee is open to more captives?  We already have the lawyer, but he's an "insider", not a random person.  But it can't hurt to ask..

Last edited by Transmorpher (2025-04-05 22:41:37)

This issue has been asked from time to time.
The truth is that I don't know for sure, they don't talk to me about it.
Sometimes I had understood that they might also have other similar activities but never in the same place as me.

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Miisa Karlsson wrote:

sometimes a "storm in a teacup" can happen

I think this is always a possibility when restrictions  are placed on someone. They tend to have a reactance response to the new restrictions and sometimes the response can be significant. "Storm in a teacup" is a very good way to describe it. I am glad the Committee has good tools to help you. For me, imposed "quiet time" or even the threat of it helps me to settle down. What sort of tools does the Committee have for you?

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Miisa Karlsson wrote:

It could work very well. It all depends on their commitment.

I'd assume wearing a ballgag or other style is hidden behind a face mask.

It's the logistics.I'm wondering about.  Like for starters, whether the sub you mentioned wears the gag out for hours at a time.  How does she handle hydration or other issues. 

Again this is assuming whether the no speaking rule is evern "hard", as in no exceptions ever.  Kind of like your life actually.

I guess you yourself are proof absolute silence CAN work in theory.  But I simply can't see "no exceptions" being possible in all cases for most people. I mean, Jury Duty is a thing.  Even you'd need to bend to a judges order, assuming Finland has a similar systsm of civil.service.

I supppse logically though, most "sub can not speak from home" arrangements aren't quite that commited to disallow flexibility.  Most people want to he able to attend family events, and actually engage in conversation without resorting to alternative methods of communication.  Or have time out with friends, ect..  And there's likely legal compulsions for oral communication barring a medically verified handicap.

Barring possible legal exceptions, one case I can see it being easy is if you cut ties/are on bad terms with family, have no or few friends, and are a total homebody.  THAT I can see swinging an iron clad speech restriction policy away from home, since you're usually home anyways.

Last edited by Transmorpher (2025-04-07 22:40:25)

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I notice that the prisoner has improved his activity a bit here on the Forum, that's a good thing. I'm worried that the number of visitors is decreasing in this great community (although I haven't been following it very closely).
How could we increase the activity of the Forum?

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Real Restraints wrote:

I notice that the prisoner has improved his activity a bit here on the Forum, that's a good thing. I'm worried that the number of visitors is decreasing in this great community (although I haven't been following it very closely).
How could we increase the activity of the Forum?

Get an X channel?  Visit Reddits bdsm subs?

If traffic is a goal, you need people to know this forum even exists.  I stumbled onto it by chance, in spite of being well aware of Captivegirl, who's seen as more of a myth then a real lifestyle by virtue of no one having met her (She's in Finland, so that alone could limit access, never mind visitor limits of two a month reserved for her brother and friend.  Unless the committee adjusted it...

Why so strict on visits anyways?  I mean lots of aspects of your captivity deviate from a normal prison.  What prison allows sleeping in ballgags?)

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705 wrote:

I think this is always a possibility when restrictions  are placed on someone. They tend to have a reactance response to the new restrictions and sometimes the response can be significant. "Storm in a teacup" is a very good way to describe it. I am glad the Committee has good tools to help you. For me, imposed "quiet time" or even the threat of it helps me to settle down. What sort of tools does the Committee have for you?

The "tools" to calm me down are simple.
...changes in restraints practices, isolation and so on.
I must say that I do not receive physical punishments such as spanking or other forms of physical violence.
Over time, I will learn to know how to live without additions to my life.

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Real Restraints wrote:

I notice that the prisoner has improved his activity a bit here on the Forum, that's a good thing. I'm worried that the number of visitors is decreasing in this great community (although I haven't been following it very closely).
How could we increase the activity of the Forum?

It is true that the number of logged in members has decreased.
But on the other hand, this forum can also be followed without logging in, so comparison is difficult.

Of course, sharing pictures and other material here would bring more followers... if nothing happens, why would anyone visit here...?

I have been sent a lot of material that I will try to share here again when I can be online more freely.

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Transmorpher wrote:

Get an X channel?  Visit Reddits bdsm subs?

If traffic is a goal, you need people to know this forum even exists.  I stumbled onto it by chance, in spite of being well aware of Captivegirl, who's seen as more of a myth then a real lifestyle by virtue of no one having met her (She's in Finland, so that alone could limit access, never mind visitor limits of two a month reserved for her brother and friend.  Unless the committee adjusted it...

Why so strict on visits anyways?  I mean lots of aspects of your captivity deviate from a normal prison.  What prison allows sleeping in ballgags?)

It doesn't matter to me how popular the Forum is. It's nice to have followers, of course, but that's not my main purpose.
Besides, Facebook, for example, prevents sharing the Forum link :(

You asked about the strictness of visits...It's true that they are stricter than in normal prisons.
One reason for the restrictions is that it also limits the stress of potential visitors: When you can only visit here twice a month (two different visitors, 1 at a time) it frees them from the idea that they should visit more often.
...although in practice the visits are less frequent because they have a negative impact on my mental well-being and in today's busy life not everyone even has time to visit me here.

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Miisa Karlsson wrote:

It doesn't matter to me how popular the Forum is. It's nice to have followers, of course, but that's not my main purpose.
Besides, Facebook, for example, prevents sharing the Forum link

You asked about the strictness of visits...It's true that they are stricter than in normal prisons.
One reason for the restrictions is that it also limits the stress of potential visitors: When you can only visit here twice a month (two different visitors, 1 at a time) it frees them from the idea that they should visit more often.
...although in practice the visits are less frequent because they have a negative impact on my mental well-being and in today's busy life not everyone even has time to visit me here.

Now don't take.this as something that will EVER happen, but if I had the means and opportunity to visit Finland;

1.  Is a visit from a stranger you only met online something you'd even consider?  Would.your committee?
2.  If the answer to this is "yes", can you ask if they ever consider an exception for your visitation limit?  Frame it as the prospective forum member who is interested in meeting Miisa as feeling obligated against depriving.her.of her brothers and friends visitation opportunity.  You were very clear in your writings how.important these visits are to you, and I could not make such a visit if I were to cause distress.

I of course respect any decision.you or your committee make, but I consider this a hard limit.  Persomal ties are something very dear to me, and I could never knowingly be the cause of you're missing even a single visit from family or friends.

Last edited by Transmorpher (2025-04-10 13:43:26)

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Transmorpher wrote:

Now don't take.this as something that will EVER happen, but if I had the means and opportunity to visit Finland;

1.  Is a visit from a stranger you only met online something you'd even consider?  Would.your committee?
2.  If the answer to this is "yes", can you ask if they ever consider an exception for your visitation limit?  Frame it as the prospective forum member who is interested in meeting Miisa as feeling obligated against depriving.her.of her brothers and friends visitation opportunity.  You were very clear in your writings how.important these visits are to you, and I could not make such a visit if I were to cause distress.

I of course respect any decision.you or your committee make, but I consider this a hard limit.  Persomal ties are something very dear to me, and I could never knowingly be the cause of you're missing even a single visit from family or friends.

Last edited by Transmorpher (Today 13:43:26)

I might consider having a visitor, that's what happened at my old place before I moved here and it was maximum security.
At my old place I had a few visitors, I had only met them online and they wanted to see me. The Committee was accommodating in a few cases, I also had a foreign visitor once.

Sometimes the visit went well but there were also cases where the visitor completely froze when he realized that I really live like this and everything I had told him was true.

Here in the current place I have not had such visitors. My current rules (Committee) do not allow it.
I have had a few extra visitors but the initiative has always come from the Committee.

:) even if it were possible to visit here it would not be out of the question.
Very rarely do I get two visitors a month so thinking about it that way it would be possible.

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Miisa Karlsson wrote:

I might consider having a visitor, that's what happened at my old place before I moved here and it was maximum security.
At my old place I had a few visitors, I had only met them online and they wanted to see me. The Committee was accommodating in a few cases, I also had a foreign visitor once.

Sometimes the visit went well but there were also cases where the visitor completely froze when he realized that I really live like this and everything I had told him was true.

Here in the current place I have not had such visitors. My current rules (Committee) do not allow it.
I have had a few extra visitors but the initiative has always come from the Committee.

even if it were possible to visit here it would not be out of the question.
Very rarely do I get two visitors a month so thinking about it that way it would be possible.

I can imagine your visitor's reaction!  It's one thing to read about it online, and another to see it confirmed with your own eyes.

Even for those into extreme bdsm.dynamics like "Total Power Exchanges" where one person consents to be stripped of all power and decision making, your lifestyle is difficult to accept.  And to be frank, abuse is a major topic of consideration in these extremes.  The logic is that people are evolving creatures, and comsenting to be a "slave" today can become a desire to end the relationship tomorrow.  Your consent becomes your cage, if you are barred from leaving.

Some would even comsider a 3 month window of captivity too intrusive, if you decided you wanted immediate release.  I personally don't believe you would ever want such a thing, even if you did someday decide to use your exit clause, but if it ever came to it I believe your committee would sceap.the whole deal against the rules, if only because it would be illegal to do anything else but that.

Unless there is some sort of special arrangement I'm not aware of.  A legaly enforcable custody framework requiring a 3 month mental.health evaulation or some such.  But I'm no lawyer, simply musing here.

Last edited by Transmorpher (2025-04-10 15:09:12)

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Transmorpher wrote:

A legaly enforcable custody framework requiring a 3 month mental.health evaulation or some such.

In most states in the United States, a court can appoint a custodian or a guardian to manage personal and financial affairs for someone whom the court determines is incompetent to do that for themselves. In some states, it is possible for a person to ask the court for such an arrangement if they are not incompetent, for their own reasons.These custody agreements are legally enforceable.

Respectfully,

Last edited by 705 (2025-04-15 14:42:22)

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