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Lets talk about abusive relationships.

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It gets complocated with CNC (Consensual non-consent).

It's easy to say everything a kink oriented adult does, is by their consent.  If you're humiliated, flogged, gagged and bound, ordered around like a slave, wear adult diapers and locking high heels on someone elses commands, and what have you, this is all something you negotiated and agreed to at the start of a relationship. 

The main common denominator is supposed to be care.  I don't know what you're into or where your boundaries are, but your significant other, dom/domme, coordinator, overseer, daddy/mommy, committee member, husband, whatever you want to call them, should understand enough about you to not cause trauma.

Nothing I'm saying is controversial or new.  The real murky waters come when someone says "I want extreme levels of control/to be controlled", and it looks exactly like an abusive relationship from the outside looking in.

Some people might LIKE being taken close to a line of trauma.  Being forced to have sex, no matter how much you fight or scream or resist, may be your kink.  How can one tell if the sub is being raped for real, or if it's part of their game?

Ask them? When?  With their dom standing right over them? 

So ask to see them alone, right?

Ok, what if someone like, say, Tempest, asked to talk with Miisa alone?  No committee, no guards (Bindings are optional, the point is you want assurances she isn't being intimidated or coerced).

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that ain't happening.  The guards stay, a committee member is always present

Just to be crystal clear, I am in no way accusing Miisa of lying about her situation.  She seems pretty well adjusted and happy, based on her writings and basic interactions on the board.  Sure, it could all be an elaborate ruse by a conmittee of evil traffickers, but there's no real reason to suspect this.  Who is the ruse for, random internet people?  Why even let her post at all?

But what if there was a committee just like Miisa's, except they ARE TRAFFICKERS.  How on earth can anyone do a "welfare check" on someone who lives the way Miisa does?  It's impossible.

Extreme kink is like that.  A dom orders a sub against talking without permission.  This could be a fun kink, but it can also be a tool for an abuser to isolate a woman and ensure she can't leave.

I don't know, this kind of thing eats at me.

What do you think?  And by you, I mean anyone here on the board, Miisa, followers, the Committee, guards, anyone.

Last edited by Transmorpher (2025-05-21 16:48:44)

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Lets expand on my concerns.

Domestic violence happens.  A wife is abused.  She may insist that she deseves it.  Or may excuse it.  Or may deny it.  Maybe she loves him, or is scared of him, or can't afford to support herself or function on our own.

There comes a point where you intervene.  There are signs, sone subtle* some overt, but they are well known signs.  A bruise, a black eye, a withdrawn or scared disposition..

But if the person is in a total power exchange, or enjoys being whipped or beaten, then what?  Where are the signs of abuse?  A sub may look down in public, she may not communicate without permission, she may have bruises. 

Personally, if there are bones broken, I don't care about dynamics anymore, I'm intervening.

But outside of that, how can you tell when it's abuse?

Last edited by Transmorpher (2025-05-21 21:15:24)

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I met a person (a woman) who wanted to be abused. I didn't fully understand it then... and I still don't.
Her dream was that someone would pick her up in a public parking lot and abuse her and eventually rape her in public as traffic and people pass by them.. It would completely humiliate her. She's a nice and sweet woman who couldn't get over this dream. I didn't agree to do it because it was too extreme for me.
I don't know if I can say that I hope she got to face her dream in some way because otherwise it would haunt her.

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Real Restraints wrote:

I met a person (a woman) who wanted to be abused. I didn't fully understand it then... and I still don't.
Her dream was that someone would pick her up in a public parking lot and abuse her and eventually rape her in public as traffic and people pass by them.. It would completely humiliate her. She's a nice and sweet woman who couldn't get over this dream. I didn't agree to do it because it was too extreme for me.
I don't know if I can say that I hope she got to face her dream in some way because otherwise it would haunt her.

Honestly, some doors are never meant to be open.

There's absolutely no way of "easing into" something like.that.  It will traumatize her, or it won't.

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